As I was running down the Athey line, I was lead back to Charles Fenaly (Finley) who in 1711 married to Elizabeth Harris in St. John's Parish, Prince Georges County, MD. These two were supposedly the parents of ten, including an Elizabeth Finley (b 26 May 1720) who married Thomas Athey (b ca 1695 MD). At this point I have no cause to doubt Elizabeth Finley's parentage, but would love to see a parish register entry of her birth if anyone has such a thing.
I am concerned about this Finley/Athey connection because according to other researchers, Thomas Athey (s/o Capt. George & Sarah Marsh) begins having children in 1719. Obviously these cannot be with Elizabeth Finley, not yet born. Later children of Thomas Athey, born in the late 1730's to mid 1740's could possibly be Elizabeth's, but Thomas Athey produced children at a regular rate from 1719 to 1746 with only a break of about 7 years: in 1725 he began exercising restraint, but took up his procreation efforts again around 1732 - still too early to be working with Elizabeth - and continued on until 1746, when his last known daughter was born.
And yet, there does seem to be a Finley connection. Thomas named his 10th child Mary Fenley Athey (according to researcher Christopher Athey) and his eleventh Elizabeth.
Was Elizabeth Fenley Thomas's second, much younger wife? If so, who was his first? Am I missing something that is generally known by other researchers? If so, please use the comments area below to add to my information.
(Line Ascending: Claude T. Brooks > Ibbia Kennedy [Brooks] > Mary Elizabeth "Bettie" Talbert [Kennedy] > Thomas S. Talbert > Thomas Athey Talbot > Sarah Athey [Talbert] > Elizabeth Fenley [Athey] > Charles Fenaly & Elizabeth Harris)
Saturday, October 9, 2010
Friday, October 8, 2010
A Correction on the Talbert Family Line
The Year of the Great Finishing (in which I attempted to finish all of those little niggling 'round-tuits) was hijacked by The Year of the Never-Ending Condo Move, so I have done very little with my genealogy in quite some time. As a result of this neglect, a new connection on the Kennedy and Talbert lines has languished in my Genealogy Inbox.
This past week after going to see my favorite Irish band, I was suddenly seized with a powerful curiosity about the Irish lines of my ancestry, and I decided to poke around a little tonight on Ancestry.com in an attempt to see if I could confirm existing information or learn anything new. I was immediately sidetracked (as so often happens) from the Kennedys and ended up tinkering with the Talberts, where I realized that most researchers had a different set of parents for my Thomas S. Talbert who married Rebecca Gobble (or more correctly, Gabel). After some review of my notes, I decided to leave my info as it was, since our Thomas had two cousins of an age who were also named Thomas, which potentially could have created confusion. I didn't want to go to the effort of making corrections if it were all for naught. Then I remembered those Talbert emails still waiting in my Inbox and had another look.
After reviewing the information of researcher Charles E. Talbert of California, PA, I am convinced enough now to go ahead and change my data. I agree with him that it is indeed more likely that Thomas S. Talbert (not "L" as sometimes stated) was the son of Thomas Athey Talbert and his wife Agatha. I have asked Charles if I can post his message to me online to help other researchers confirm or correct their information if they have listed Basil Talbert Jr. (brother of Thomas Athey Talbert) and Polly Logan as the parents of the Thomas S. Talbert who married Rebecca Gobble. If he agrees, I will amend this post.
This past week after going to see my favorite Irish band, I was suddenly seized with a powerful curiosity about the Irish lines of my ancestry, and I decided to poke around a little tonight on Ancestry.com in an attempt to see if I could confirm existing information or learn anything new. I was immediately sidetracked (as so often happens) from the Kennedys and ended up tinkering with the Talberts, where I realized that most researchers had a different set of parents for my Thomas S. Talbert who married Rebecca Gobble (or more correctly, Gabel). After some review of my notes, I decided to leave my info as it was, since our Thomas had two cousins of an age who were also named Thomas, which potentially could have created confusion. I didn't want to go to the effort of making corrections if it were all for naught. Then I remembered those Talbert emails still waiting in my Inbox and had another look.
After reviewing the information of researcher Charles E. Talbert of California, PA, I am convinced enough now to go ahead and change my data. I agree with him that it is indeed more likely that Thomas S. Talbert (not "L" as sometimes stated) was the son of Thomas Athey Talbert and his wife Agatha. I have asked Charles if I can post his message to me online to help other researchers confirm or correct their information if they have listed Basil Talbert Jr. (brother of Thomas Athey Talbert) and Polly Logan as the parents of the Thomas S. Talbert who married Rebecca Gobble. If he agrees, I will amend this post.
Wednesday, July 1, 2009
More on the Brooks Brothers and Daniel Boone
I didn't have as much time at the Warren County Heritage Society today as I'd have liked, so I didn't get to really dig into a book on Daniel Boone that I found found a few minutes before I had to leave. There were references to the scrappy Brooks brothers, though, and I learned that Thomas Brooks married Daniel's niece, Sarah Boone. According to the author of the genealogy, Thomas, William and Samuel were natives of Fauquier County, VA. A quick search online when I returned home seems to indicate that these three Brookses were descendants of a Peter Brooks, although at least one researcher says there is no proof of them having come from Fauquier.
Tuesday, June 30, 2009
Three Brooks Brothers were involved in the adventures of Blue Licks, KY with Daniel Boone
I continue to plug along through my Brooks Genbox, reading and sifting. One of the interesting leads found by Carol Redd deals with three Brooks brothers who were part of Daniel Boone's party. Although we don't know if these Books belong to the R1a line or not, it's still an interesting story and character sketch. Carol's family has an oral tradition of her Brookses having some association with Daniel Boone.
In 1782 a list of salt makers captured by indians at The Blue Licks (in Kentucky) includes a William Brooks and Samuel Brooks. A Thomas Brooks (Boone's scout and brother to William and Samuel) was not captured. William was ransomed to the British at Detroit along with many others captured at the same time, but Samuel died in captivity.
John Mack Faragher's book on Daniel Boone includes the following intriguing passage: "Communications between settlements depended on the scouts Thomas Brooks and Simon Kenton at Boonesborough, both men in their early twenties but hardened to life on the border, 'men with the bark on,' as people then put it. Brooks, who later married a Boone woman, was one of three equally irascible brothers. He so loved a fight, it was said, that after going a spell without one, he offered a big stranger a guinea to go a round or two in a local tavern. The man accepted and proceeded to beat him up badly; Brooks left the tavern hurting but happy."
Google Books allows you to search and read from this book.
In 1782 a list of salt makers captured by indians at The Blue Licks (in Kentucky) includes a William Brooks and Samuel Brooks. A Thomas Brooks (Boone's scout and brother to William and Samuel) was not captured. William was ransomed to the British at Detroit along with many others captured at the same time, but Samuel died in captivity.
John Mack Faragher's book on Daniel Boone includes the following intriguing passage: "Communications between settlements depended on the scouts Thomas Brooks and Simon Kenton at Boonesborough, both men in their early twenties but hardened to life on the border, 'men with the bark on,' as people then put it. Brooks, who later married a Boone woman, was one of three equally irascible brothers. He so loved a fight, it was said, that after going a spell without one, he offered a big stranger a guinea to go a round or two in a local tavern. The man accepted and proceeded to beat him up badly; Brooks left the tavern hurting but happy."
Google Books allows you to search and read from this book.
Monday, June 29, 2009
20090629 Brooks Family Timeline (Excel Document)
This is a link to an Excel spreadsheet of my working timeline for this family. The file includes tabs for unidentified individual's records and limited entries of lines or individuals known to be unrelated to ours (to help distinguish from our own entries). This is an ongoing work in progress. Please feel free to download this file or share the link, but I request that you not share or re-post the actual Excel file since it is updated frequently. Please subscribe to this blog to be notified of updates.
Brooks Family Timeline.xls
Sifting through a backlog from the R1a Brooks Family DNA discussion list.
Well, I'm making progress, at last. From 277 messages in my Brooks Genbox (Genealogy Inbox), I'm down by a whopping twelve messages to 265. Now that's what I call progress. It's not enough just to read the messages -- no, no -- there is information to be gleaned from each and every one. One message contains a link to a site from which I spend four hours transcribing notes. Another announces that a member has posted an abstract of Brookses from Oglethorpe County, GA...but wait, look at all of his other files that look intriguing as well! This could take days. Months. Perhaps years, conservatively speaking.
I find that I'm nearly six months behind the others in the group -- a group of which I am, embarrassingly, the moderator -- and as I plow through the sheer volume of information, I worry that I will ask (or answer) questions that have already been addressed in the intervening 265 messages. I hope everyone will bear with me as I play catchup.
I find that I'm nearly six months behind the others in the group -- a group of which I am, embarrassingly, the moderator -- and as I plow through the sheer volume of information, I worry that I will ask (or answer) questions that have already been addressed in the intervening 265 messages. I hope everyone will bear with me as I play catchup.
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